Screw It. Questions about a Spoiler.
Jul. 10th, 2005 03:53 pmOkay, f-list. Question for you.
There's a couple of you out there that say you have been spoiled. Me, I don't mind being spoiled. In fact, on this particular matter I WANT to be spoiled, because I will enjoy the book much more if I know it's coming.
I've seen the rumor/spoiler that Tonks falls for Lupin. HOWEVER, I have reasonable reasons to be doubtful of the validity of the poster- not the least of which is that I have no clue as to who they are (and some of the other spoilers seemed a bit unlikely to me). Is there anyone out there that can elaborate on this particular rumor/spoiler/whatever? (Especially on Lupin's feelings in return, if they're known?)
Thanks muchly! :)
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Date: 2005-07-10 08:00 pm (UTC)Aargh. Why am I more nervous about HBP now?
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Date: 2005-07-10 08:07 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-07-10 08:10 pm (UTC)But, really, who hasn't fallen for Lupin? Anyone? Anyone? Right. NO ONE. It is the natural state of the universe. Chicks dig the scruffy werewolf. JKR knows that. She likes him herself.
Anyway, no matter what happens, it ain't going to be a big part of the books. *shrugs* I used to care a lot about Remus' canon love life, but I find it really hard to get worked up now. Besides, if he's got a love life, that means he's actually GOING TO BE IN THE BOOK ENOUGH FOR THE KIDS TO GOSSIP ABOUT HIM. That's a good thing. No more vanishing werewolf, thankyouverymuch!
How was Baltimore?
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Date: 2005-07-10 08:11 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-07-10 08:12 pm (UTC)Er. I meant that the HP fandom resembles high school. Since the books take place in a high school (basically), that wasn't a very meaningful remark as written. *sigh*
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Date: 2005-07-10 08:13 pm (UTC)1.) I'm silly and obsessive and like the idea of R/S staying canon. I know it could, even if a T/L relationship was mutual, but still. But more than that...
2.) I kind of wish Tonks would stay unattached. I LIKE her single and not worrying about the fact. Especially since there's so much emphasis in fanon on shipping (in canon, I guess there's barely any. But still!)
Just one of those things I want to know....
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Date: 2005-07-10 08:15 pm (UTC)*smacks hand Dobby style* Maybe I should go and watch a film.
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Date: 2005-07-10 08:21 pm (UTC)but people posting so-called spoilers these days are likely just making stuff up
See, that's exactly what I'm thinking. (And I knew what you meant about the fandom being high school ;) ) I mean, I wasn't on LJ or active in the fandom before OotP, but NOWHERE did I hear that Sirius was the Big Death. (I didn't know until I looked at the last few pages when my book came ;) ) And Lupin/Tonks seems like it would be such a minor detail that it would be hard to pick that up unless you read the book, which I doubt many people have been able to do.
Plus, I always trust rumors more when they're correctly spelled ;)
I used to care a lot about Remus' canon love life, but I find it really hard to get worked up now
I'm trying to get to that phase, and really hoping I do once HBP comes out. I'm seeing a very, very promising trend in my writing, which is the huge desire to write genfic oneshots. (Thank God.) And good point about no more vanishing werewolf! :)
Baltimore was lovely, thanks :) We stayed at our favorite B&B, and got to actually SEE each other for a while. And the Red Sox lost, which I don't care about except for it annoys hubby's best friend, and annoying hubby's best friend is ALWAYS fun :)
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Date: 2005-07-10 08:22 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-07-10 08:27 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-07-10 08:29 pm (UTC)I'm just wondering what ship wars are going to brew...(gets popcorn ready)
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Date: 2005-07-10 08:34 pm (UTC)But, really, who hasn't fallen for Lupin? Anyone? Anyone? Right. NO ONE. It is the natural state of the universe. Chicks dig the scruffy werewolf. JKR knows that. She likes him herself.
This just begs for a mention of My Teenage Fan Club here... :-D
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Date: 2005-07-10 08:40 pm (UTC)As for spoilers... I don't really mind so much either. I'm not inclined to believe them until I read it myself anyway, but, with regard to R/T...
To be honest, nothing is going to stop my shipping R/S. Nothing. Not even JKR holding a press release where she states it's a preposterous notion. The more I re-read, the more hints I see, and it's not like I'm actively looking for words that I can twist to make them fit my beliefs. It's just something that I see, period, and that's not ever going to change. And now that Sirius is dead, well, unless Remus is going to follow him, I don't want him living the rest of his life alone and lonely and pining. It's possible to love more than one person in your lifetime.
I'm really not that worried about it, to tell you the truth. And think of what the subtextual backstory could be: Tonks knows about R/S and wants to help him 'live' again. I can't see where - if there IS a relationship between Remus and Tonks - that she'd go into all (or any) of the details of how it started and why. What purpose would that have towards the plot?
We'll know in 5 days. Until then, I take everything I hear with a grain of salt
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Date: 2005-07-10 08:41 pm (UTC)That's really interesting, because I've been thinking the same thing lately. And even stories (like my Chocolate Factory crackfic crossover) that totally could be Remus/Sirius, which very little effort on my part, just work so much better in my mind as genfic. Weird.
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Date: 2005-07-10 08:41 pm (UTC)And yeah. I'll read HBP no matter what, and I suspect I'll love most of it. The other spoilers- be they true or not- sounded kind of intriguing. (Although I wonder if Draco will be all that important. I really, really do.) Even though I never write the fanfic for him, I adore Harry. But if I know about Remus/Tonks, then I can be mad and annoyed now, and get over it and just sit back and enjoy the book. Heh.
Wierd mind :)
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Date: 2005-07-10 08:43 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-07-10 08:45 pm (UTC)I totally agree that I don't want Remus lonely and pining. That's just not right. The big reason I would wonder about it is that Tonks is Sirius's cousin. But then, that connection... you could have a lot of fun with that. Especially since the same rumor has it they aren't blissfully in Twu Wuv at the end. (Gads. I'm already spinning why not in my head.)
And yeah, I'm pretty much taking everything I've read on the Spoiler Zone there with a grain of salt as well. It could be true... or we could open up to the back of the book and find out the Big Death was Molly Weasley or something that no one's really been speculating about.
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Date: 2005-07-10 08:46 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-07-10 08:49 pm (UTC)But yeah. It could even be that the poster who put up the rumors just made some logical guesses. None of the rumors sound overly preposterous (I mean, hands up. Who hasn't thought Dumbledore will die at some point?), and even I've admitted that Tonks/Lupin is possible as a future ship. (I don't think it was going on in OotP.) There's really nothing against it, when you get right down to it. Or for it.
But yeah... I just wonder about the validity. Six days.... (any bets on me reading the last few pages first?)
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Date: 2005-07-10 08:54 pm (UTC)I'm also getting tired of doing the epics, because I can't get paid for them and it seems silly to be investing so much into a story maybe... how many? I honestly don't know? people are reading. (And I don't invest THAT much into it- my lack of editing is atrocious at times.) But epic is really the only fun way for me to write R/S. Gen, on the other hand, I can easily do in one-shot. But I really, really, really need to get moving on something original.
Or something scientific.
It's funny. There was that "underappreciated authors" thing last week, and I think gen authors as a whole fall into that category. Which is too bad!
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Date: 2005-07-10 08:54 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-07-10 08:57 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-07-10 08:59 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-07-10 09:01 pm (UTC)If it does happen, I hope it will happen in a way that leaves R/S possible, but even if it doesn't, I'm far too convinced at this point to stop 'shipping them. I've always wanted to go to Egypt anyway. ;)
But, really, who hasn't fallen for Lupin? Anyone? Anyone? Right. NO ONE. It is the natural state of the universe. Chicks dig the scruffy werewolf. JKR knows that. She likes him herself.
So true! :)
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Date: 2005-07-10 09:03 pm (UTC)The one rumor I've heard is that it was a book reviewer that linked the info to someone's cousin. But some of the things the reviewer alledgedly couldn't remember made me wonder how much of this is true. ::shrugs::