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Okay. Here's what we know. We all know (or we do now) that we're flashing back to the New Caprica, and Felix's little romance with an Eight. However, I'm thinking that the romance might not be the secret. Because, come on. Everyone knows that Baltar slept with a Cylon, Helo's MARRIED to a Cylon, and Tyrol was in love with a Cylon. No one tossed them out the airlock.

BUT.

That list that Gaeta's writing... I'm worried he's not writing it in the Raptor. I'm wondering if he's writing it on New Caprica.

I've always wondered what all Gaeta had to do in his role as inside man on New Caprica. Because, you know, he was probably asked to do a lot more than just read announcements and type memos. One of the things I wanted to do- but didn't manage to bring myself to do it- when I wrote Youth's Final Luxury was to point out that "helping the Cylons" probably meant more than bringing them bagels and refreshing their coffee. How did he get their trust?

I'm starting to think that maybe that list he was writing was a rough draft of a detention list or a death list. Maybe not intentionally. I'm thinking maybe the Eight betrayed him and had him write it for a different reason and then gave it to the Cylons. I hope I'm wrong- I often am.

The Eight kiss- I'm pretty sure, given what we know, that she's kissing Gaeta. Could anyone figure out what he was wearing in that shot? I am very much hoping that it was a flashback. I can handle a former Gaeta/Eight relationship. I do NOT want to see him cheat on Hoshi.

I am pleased that Hoshi is going to go chasing Gaeta. That makes me very happy (as does the fact he's going with Racetrack!).

Big spoilers, here, for the rest of the webisodes. What I found was the summary of each one- one sentence, doesn't give TOO much away.

1. While on his way to get some R&R Gaeta?s Raptor makes an unexpected detour.
2. While stranded in the middle of space, Gaeta and the other passengers realize that time ?and air is limited.
3. Gaeta realizes that he knows one of the Eights more than he lets the others believe.
4. The passengers begin to suspect foul play.
5. While trying to preserve the air supply, Gaeta thinks back to the Eight he knew on New Caprica.
6. Gaeta decides to go with the Eight?s plan on getting them home.
7. As Hoshi and Racetrack search for the missing Raptor, Gaeta realizes that he might not be as safe as he thought.
8. With almost all the passengers dead, Gaeta realizes that sometimes it?s hope in others that blinds you.
9: With the help of the Eight, Gaeta makes some harsh realizations about himself.
10: With no hope of rescue in sight, Gaeta has to make a final decision about his future.


The ones that intrigue me are 9 and 10.

In terms of 9: what realizations is Gaeta making? Here are a few off the top of my head:

1.) He's done everything he condemned Gaius Baltar of doing- slept with a Cylon during the Occupation, betrayed his people, and went for the drugs.

2.) He's a morpha addict. Seriously- I can see where this one might be VERY possible. It's minor enough that it makes sense to put it in the webisodes, but yeah, an addiction would be a big thing. (I also really like this one because it doesn't totally assassinate his character.)

3.) He's a sleeper agent. I can't tell who's cutting their hand. I THINK it's Gaeta, but it would also make sense for it to be an Eight, doing something similar to Flight of the Phoenix when Athena stuck the fiber optic cable up her arm. But if Gaeta thinks he's a Cylon... you see where I'm going?

4.) He killed all these people. The thing about that is making Gaeta the killer seems like an AWFULLY big thing to do in a webisode.

Any other good thoughts for revelations?

As far as 10 goes, since Gaeta doesn't think he's going to make it back, I'm assuming that Hoshi will find him. It looks like all of the other passengers may be dead, except maybe the eight. (I really wonder who's doing all the killing, although it's very possible that it's one of the others and Gaeta killed them before they could kill him.) I am very, very, very much hoping that Hoshi and Gaeta do not end up breaking up in the last 3 minutes of this. I am also very, very much hoping that Gaeta isn't hooking back up with the Eight. Although I'd like to think that they won't do that. That seems very cheap and easy.

Please, though, let us get a nice reunion scene with Gaeta and Hoshi. This is already dark- let's add a little happiness. Plus, I am REALLY hoping the pairing makes it over to the show, just because I've defended it so much. I don't want to be wrong.

Another comment: if anyone else falls in love with an Eight, I WILL scream. Three main male parts in love with the Eights? If I was single and looking, I'd be asking where I can get some of that programming. (Although it would be nice to see an Eight act evil-ish for a bit, please.)

I do think it's kind of funny that Skiffy got all "look! Gaeta and Hoshi almost kiss", and there were people talking about "full on making out", and it looks like this is almost more about Gaeta/Sharon than it is about Gaeta/Hoshi. (Although it seems like we're going to be seeing stuff from Hoshi's side of it.) I mean, I don't really mind, because I'm more interested in the emotional stuff, but dude- who's version of "full on making out" is that, and how much must their sex life SUCK?

Anyway. I really ought to think about eating lunch at some point. More babbling later, I'm sure!

Date: 2008-12-12 09:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] falafel-musings.livejournal.com
Based on those first bloody shots, I think Gaeta is the sole survivor of the Raptor disaster. He looks all alone. Or maybe I'm just hoping for Stalker!Eights death so she doesn't make it into the main series. *evil cackle*

He's done everything he condemned Gaius Baltar of doing- slept with a Cylon during the Occupation, betrayed his people, and went for the drugs.

Hmn. I'm warming to this idea. Baltar/Gaeta in sin and despair together. Basically if Gaeta has other ships then I want them to be little more than devices in the Baltar/Gaeta ship. I'm still obsessively biased about my pairing.

I'm very curious about what Gaeta is writing too. It definitely looks like a list of names. A death list?! There is also a clip of Gaeta folding up a message to put into the garbage dumpster. It's definitely a New Caprica clip. Damn. Even though I hate this Felix/Eight thing I'm excited about returning to the New Caprica period.

Hoshi & Racetrack rescue team? Awesome!! Don't cheat on Hoshi pleeeease! I want a tearful romantic reunion at the end of this ordeal.

Date: 2008-12-12 09:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lls-mutant.livejournal.com
Yeah, I'm thinking he looks alone, too. (And I agree- I'm hoping the Eights both die. I'm so not nice.) Seriously, though, this guy is gonna need some MAJOR counseling when he gets back. And I'll be interested as to how they work finding Felix in a bloody Raptor full of corpses into the show. Because you don't just say "Remember when we found Felix in the Raptor with all those bodies?"

I'm still obsessively biased about my pairing.

I have to agree, I'd be very annoyed if they made it clear that Gaeta was not ever in love with Baltar. What's the point of making him bi then????

It definitely looks like a list of names. A death list?!

That's definitely my first thought, too. The numbers after them could be the tent number they live in or something. I'm really wondering what Felix did on New Caprica, because the more I think about it, the more I'm sure it can't just be he slept with an Eight. And is it bad that I hope she screwed him over big time- big enough that he definitely doesn't want anything to do with her anymore?

As long as he and Hoshi end up back together, I am happy right now. Our boy needs to not end up in the frakking mental ward, okay?

(Hopefully this isn't all some morpha induced hallucination.)

Date: 2008-12-12 11:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] falafel-musings.livejournal.com
I hope they aren't going to turn Gaeta into a Kendra Shaw type of character. I don't want to end up completely alienated from him. He's still the guy yelling against "murder!" to Zarek. He still has morals it seems.

I just heard the writers commentary version. Sadly I don't think Gaeta/Hoshi is going to be in the main show. Not because they won't allow it, but because it seems like it was an after-thought for this series. But saying it's good for what is going on in Season 4 gives me a little more hope for Baltar/Gaeta.

Date: 2008-12-13 02:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tin-o-biscuits.livejournal.com
But the lady said ""in terms of storytelling for Season 4, this (Foshi) actually worked out better" so I'm thinking maybe they talked to the series writers and decided this pair works better and hopefully it will get a mention in the show (I am being uncharacteristically optimistic today...)

Date: 2008-12-13 09:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] falafel-musings.livejournal.com
I hope there is a hint of Gaeta/Hoshi at least. Even if it's only more background cuddling. I definitely hope they give us a reunion at the end of these webisodes rather than ending it on the shot of bloodied frakked up Felix.

However on a positive note, I don't think Felix/Eight is going to make it into the main show either. I mean, I know AJ is saying Felix has a great arc in 4.5 but I still don't see him getting that much screentime. I think Felix's main storyline is going to be with Zarek and there is also going to be this intense Baltar/Gaeta scene. Those two things will probably cover all of Felix's 4.5 screentime and it's still loads more than what he usually gets in half a season.

I don't even think the Raptor of Death will be mentioned in the main show. It'd be to complicated to explain. Ditto the Eight story. Casual viewers who don't watch the webisodes will be confused and jarred. I think in 4.5 we'll see Felix with PTSD but he had that before the Raptor disaster.

I'm not gonna get too hung up about these webisodes, because they seem more like a virtual piece of fanfic than canon. I think their main connection to canon will be a) showing the tension and paranoia between human/cylons b) fleshing out Gaeta as a character since he is gonna play a bigger role in 4.5. But I don't think a lot of the details of this story are going to be relevant to 4.5.

Date: 2008-12-13 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lls-mutant.livejournal.com
You know what's starting to bug me about the Eights, and hopefully the ending of this relationship will clear up?

We have Boomer. Good Boomer, who doesn't want to kill humans. We have Athena, good Athena, who doesn't want to kill humans. Um, the 8s participated in the genocide of humanity, just like the 1-6's. Can we see some of that in them, please?

I'm wondering if what happened was that the Eight used Felix to get info that they needed early on, and Felix found out or something.

I've been wondering how they're going to fit the Raptor of Death in, too. It can't be Felix killing those people- too big a reveal. A Cylon killing them (unless it's Pilot8 and Stalker8 gives her life to stop her) creates a big problem in Fleet Unity and should have been in the show (although maybe it IS.) Even if one of the three human redshirts does it... this is gonna mess Felix up pretty badly. Unless the whole killing aspect is a morpha hallucination. :P

I'm hoping I can just gleefully ignore the 8s afterwards. I'm done my NC writing, so it's possible.


















Date: 2008-12-13 02:58 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] nicole-anell.livejournal.com
I just heard the writers commentary version.
The WHAT?!

Date: 2008-12-13 03:49 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] nicole-anell.livejournal.com
Thank you! I had no idea!

Interesting about it being Gaeta/Narcho at some point. Yeah, it sounds like the pairing itself was an afterthought and probably won't make it into the show. But then that season four storytelling comment... I don't know what to think!

(Random: I love your icon. I just realized where it was from.)

Date: 2008-12-13 04:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tin-o-biscuits.livejournal.com
No problem. :)

Yeah, I hate all this, like, indirect speaking, I guess it is. I want some frakking answers. Rrr.

(Teehee, thanks! Mr. Pilkington is just so awesome. XD)

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