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You know, I can't help but giggle every time I see the complaint "ALL the good MWPP fic out there has R/S in it."

First of all, no, that's an exaggeration. I can think of a few good pieces that don't. (Heck, I wrote one of 'em. Not that I'm modest or anything at the moment.) But more than that...

Well then, write some!!!!!! If you want to see gen MWPP fic, or MWPP fic that has het romances, write it!! Gen MWPP fic IS sadly lacking, which is a shame because there is a lot of great fodder for it. And I know if it's gen, I'll certainly go read it! (I admit I hesitate on het, unless it's James/Lily, because I rarely like the OCs.) Some of the best MWPP art ::coughTinaLingcough:: is 90% gen (the last 10% being J/L), so why not go write the fiction to go with it?

Ah well. Till then, I'll just snicker. Cause I'm still in a bitchy mood, although at least now it's a happy bitchy type thing :)

Re: Gen fic

Date: 2005-09-23 12:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lls-mutant.livejournal.com
Oh, I TOTALLY agree with you on the gen thing. It's why [livejournal.com profile] prankstersguide and authors like [livejournal.com profile] krislaughs, [livejournal.com profile] ignipes, [livejournal.com profile] topaz_eyes and [livejournal.com profile] paulamcg aren't more popular than they are, even though they're outstanding writers: they don't write NC-17. In fact, even though the pairing might be there, it's not the ultimate focus of the fic and therefore, it's not that widely read. Which is too bad. And the only reason Deny Thy Father got so popular (I assume) is it got Niffled.

Comedy is excruciatingly hard to write- especially nonsexual comedy. I've only written one comedy piece, and frankly, I don't think it was that brilliant. But it was fun :)

And yeah- that's EXACTLY why I don't read het with OCs. I can read OCs for temporary relationships, but outside of that... of course, I tend to write OCs, so.... ::Shrug::

Re: Gen fic

Date: 2005-09-23 12:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lls-mutant.livejournal.com
Oops. But I guess there's a difference when OCs aren't sexual.
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they don't write NC-17. In fact, even though the pairing might be there, it's not the ultimate focus of the fic and therefore, it's not that widely read. Which is too bad.

Which is a reason why I think a certain writer I know switched to writing NC-17 works. Her gen is much stronger and her characters have more dynamism in the general portrayals rather than say... slash, but she got hipped to the fact that slash and NC-17 gave her a currency, and the unfortunate thing is? It worked for her. But I think her heart and her strongest work is gen though, but in HP, you just don't get the accolades if your work is all gen. Tuff titties, but dems the breaks.


And yeah- that's EXACTLY why I don't read het with OCs. I can read OCs for temporary relationships, but outside of that... of course, I tend to write OCs, so.... ::Shrug::

I must admit, I'm a bit of a bitch when it comes to OCs. On one hand, if they are written in the way you write them - as details in a wizarding world, like Remus' dad or Sirius' uncle (technically, not an OC, but I'll use it since you give a little known character some play) or a random colleague, I can appreciate their inclusion.

If its the whole notion of OC's just to show off sexual prowess or some sort of writer's fantasy, just no. Get off in your own time, plz thx. If I wanted a rash of OC's I'll go read original fiction, or go and write my own. Sad, but true.

Eeep. Comedy. I just can't do it. But yeah, I'd be up for gen fic with MWPP. I think the most ambitious gen fic I've ever read was called 'Forever Alive!' which was written by this lady for her little brother, and it was a monster of a fic. Could have done with a beta reader, and unfortunately, it was on ff.net (even though it got a fair bit of posts) but I do remember the scope of it, from first year all the way Sirius' death in OoTP.

Even in retrospect (like just thinking about it) I considered it a strong fic, and a very rare and assured piece of gen.









From: [identity profile] lls-mutant.livejournal.com
On one hand, if they are written in the way you write them - as details in a wizarding world, like Remus' dad or Sirius' uncle (technically, not an OC, but I'll use it since you give a little known character some play) or a random colleague, I can appreciate their inclusion.

That's actually what I mean with OCs, usually. I have a few OCs that play romantic roles- a guy who Remus was with for a short while and a girlfriend for Peter (because if you DO want to hook Peter up- and I like Peter with a girlfriend- you have to pretty much use an OC), but other than that that's the role of OCs. Other people in the wizarding world. My favorite (behind Damien and Alex) is actually Caradoc Dearborn (like you- I say close enough to an OC) who is Remus's boss for a while. I got tired of the SBP characterization of young, good-looking Caradoc and made him into a balding, pudgy scientist type who's Moody's best friend.

If its the whole notion of OC's just to show off sexual prowess or some sort of writer's fantasy, just no. Get off in your own time, plz thx. If I wanted a rash of OC's I'll go read original fiction, or go and write my own. Sad, but true.

Not sad at all, I think. Of course, I'm the same way. I approach OC love interests very, very, very carefully. (Especially if there's ANY R or NC-17 content.) I think I've read ONE I liked, and that's been it. (Sadly, if you do want a het relationship for Sirius, again, you pretty much have to OC it. And that's who it was with.) But the focus wasn't on the romance so much, but on how she dealt with Sirius's death and with relating to Harry and Remus after the death, and that aspect I really liked. (Plus, the writer did a REALLY nice H/G side plot that I was totally in love with.)

I tried reading "Forever Alive", but I just couldn't get through it because I didn't like the characterizations, especially Remus. Ah well!

I understand

Date: 2005-09-24 01:44 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] jazzypom.livejournal.com
about 'Forever Alive'. I think it's the werewolf stuff that got to me, because if Remus could control his animal side, he wouldn't be needing the wolfsbane. I read it because I liked the academic side to the fic - the knights of warpulrg (sp), giving way to the death eaters, and at the end, that conversation that Sirius had with Remus was a bit of alright.

To be honest, I'm okay with most Remus characterizations, because I don't think I have the full measure of him. As long as he's not an 'alpha!' male nor a 'girl' and suitably passive aggressive, I'm cool. Sirius and Snape however, I can be a real madam about.

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